Questions, questions...
The last post resulted in a deluge of questions. Well, two - but for this blog that's a deluge.
Southern Writer asks:
Heh. On this side of the pond, we call it reality TV.
Good point. We have that too, but those who volunteer for it deserve torment.
But never mind that now ... tell us more about these ghosts who should not have been awakened. What do you know about them? Are they the ghosts of rapists and murderers and such, or are they a different species altogether?
Not so much awakened as let through the door. Some are human ghosts (if you don't think humans are dangerous, read the news). A few are not. There are other forms of life, and I know I'll be called a crank for saying it. I stopped worrying about that a long time ago. Now, I don't mean take-over-the-world or let-Hell-loose Hollywood type creatures. I don't mean demons, though some would call them that.
Imagine another reality overlapping this one. If you don't have sufficient imagination to do that, read no further. In that other reality is a Romulus Crowe who tells the inhabitants about our human world. Most laugh at the very notion. Most don't believe we could exist. A few will take up the idea and try to find a way through. Most demons don't believe in us. A sobering thought.
What happens when humans get a sniff of ghosts? Amateurs play with Ouija boards, table-tipping and other 'games'. The ghosts aren't, to them, real living things. They are toys. Why should any other species regard their 'ghosts' differently? When someone playing with the supernatural connects with another, playing their own supernatural games, they create a bridge.
As with humans, those playing on the other side don't regard their findings as life. Just as entertainment. As with humans, those playing around on the other side aren't usually the brightest sparks in the fire. They are the ones who tease cats, who poke dead rats, who kick dogs. That's what they do to things they regard as real. They don't think we're alive.
Most 'demons' are idiots from another reality. They don't want to take over the world. They're just poking the dead rat. Why would they stop? To them, we're not even real.
Vicious humans are worse. Spiteful, self-centred, hate-filled souls are more common than serial killers and can be far more dangerous. The non-human 'demons' usually get bored and go away, or die in their own realities. Note that few poltergeist manifestations last longer than a human lifetime, for example. Human ghosts hang around longer.
If they can't be returned once they're summoned, what becomes of them?
You can't put toothpaste back in the tube because it's been there and knows not to fall for that trick again. You can put toothpaste in a different tube, one it hasn't seen before. They can be tricked into a different containment. Most 'demons' aren't too bright. If they don't get caught, I think they become administrators and politicians. There are many current heads of state I'd regard as demonic. Have you heard of the game 'Second Life'? I think they might be playing their own version of that.
How can we know if a ghost we're seeing is benign or malevolent?
If it tries to kill you, that's not good. If you recognise the ghost then it's most likely okay, but remember that what you 'see' is projected into your mind. Few 'demons' are smart enough to fake an image but a few are. If you suspect it's not who you think it is, a few questions will soon show them up.
What are some of the ways they're being summoned? Will simple ghost hunting in itself conjure them? Do some things, like Ouija boards or trigger objects, invite them?
Any reputable medium will tell you that the phrase 'Is (so-and-so) there?' is an invitation. The phrase 'Is anybody there?', as uttered by halfwits on TV shows is an open invitation to any spirit, human or otherwise, trying to get through. A better, much safer phrasing is 'Who's there?' because it demands an identity. Never underestimate the power of invitation. And never trust any response. Ghosts are dead people, and people lie.
Ouija boards are a recent invention. This is used by sceptics to 'debunk' them. In fact, they were invented as a means of making money from the spiritualist craze. The inventors might not even have believed in the supernatural. They might have seen nothing more than a business opportunity. However, they were based on previous, long-standing spirit communication methods and effectively put the atom bomb within reach of the amateur. They do work. They do allow spirit contact BUT they are not selective in who, or what they contact. You might reach Aunt Flo with one of these or you might reach someone or something that's pretending to be Aunt Flo. With the limited contact allowed by that board, you can't tell. It's an open radio. You have no idea what's coming through. It works by the attraction of the life force of the people using the board and it's specificity is less if none of the sitters believe. They're all pressing for a result even if they claim to be non-believers, otherwise they wouldn't be sitting there. Pressing for a result, and not caring what that result might be, is like pressing a big red button labelled 'Don't press this'.
Trigger objects are neutral. They don't send an invitation. I'll post the 'rotating clown' story someday, when I have it sorted out.
What about simple fear? Could someone's fear of such things send out a signal, like fishbait in water? Do tell all!
Ah, the old 'blood in the water' theory of fear. I don't know for sure, but I think that can only apply to human ghosts. Dead bullies react to fear just like living ones. It's not a signal as such but if they've scared you once, they might try to do it again.
heyjude said...
Rom, sounds like you need to write another book to warn the naive about all the dangers.
There's little point trying to explain things to those too stupid to listen. Many times, the dangers of drink-driving, or using a mobile phone while driving have been explained in gory detail, yet the masses of morons that populate the world have declared themselves exempt from death and injury. In an earlier post I described how most people are too dense to realise there are other living people around, never mind dead ones.
I have a second edition in preparation but I don't fool myself into thinking it'll make a big difference. The world will always be populated with 99% dopes, and we'll always elect the dopiest to lead us.
Did that answer the questions? I have to go now to see if the clown rotated.
Southern Writer asks:
Heh. On this side of the pond, we call it reality TV.
Good point. We have that too, but those who volunteer for it deserve torment.
But never mind that now ... tell us more about these ghosts who should not have been awakened. What do you know about them? Are they the ghosts of rapists and murderers and such, or are they a different species altogether?
Not so much awakened as let through the door. Some are human ghosts (if you don't think humans are dangerous, read the news). A few are not. There are other forms of life, and I know I'll be called a crank for saying it. I stopped worrying about that a long time ago. Now, I don't mean take-over-the-world or let-Hell-loose Hollywood type creatures. I don't mean demons, though some would call them that.
Imagine another reality overlapping this one. If you don't have sufficient imagination to do that, read no further. In that other reality is a Romulus Crowe who tells the inhabitants about our human world. Most laugh at the very notion. Most don't believe we could exist. A few will take up the idea and try to find a way through. Most demons don't believe in us. A sobering thought.
What happens when humans get a sniff of ghosts? Amateurs play with Ouija boards, table-tipping and other 'games'. The ghosts aren't, to them, real living things. They are toys. Why should any other species regard their 'ghosts' differently? When someone playing with the supernatural connects with another, playing their own supernatural games, they create a bridge.
As with humans, those playing on the other side don't regard their findings as life. Just as entertainment. As with humans, those playing around on the other side aren't usually the brightest sparks in the fire. They are the ones who tease cats, who poke dead rats, who kick dogs. That's what they do to things they regard as real. They don't think we're alive.
Most 'demons' are idiots from another reality. They don't want to take over the world. They're just poking the dead rat. Why would they stop? To them, we're not even real.
Vicious humans are worse. Spiteful, self-centred, hate-filled souls are more common than serial killers and can be far more dangerous. The non-human 'demons' usually get bored and go away, or die in their own realities. Note that few poltergeist manifestations last longer than a human lifetime, for example. Human ghosts hang around longer.
If they can't be returned once they're summoned, what becomes of them?
You can't put toothpaste back in the tube because it's been there and knows not to fall for that trick again. You can put toothpaste in a different tube, one it hasn't seen before. They can be tricked into a different containment. Most 'demons' aren't too bright. If they don't get caught, I think they become administrators and politicians. There are many current heads of state I'd regard as demonic. Have you heard of the game 'Second Life'? I think they might be playing their own version of that.
How can we know if a ghost we're seeing is benign or malevolent?
If it tries to kill you, that's not good. If you recognise the ghost then it's most likely okay, but remember that what you 'see' is projected into your mind. Few 'demons' are smart enough to fake an image but a few are. If you suspect it's not who you think it is, a few questions will soon show them up.
What are some of the ways they're being summoned? Will simple ghost hunting in itself conjure them? Do some things, like Ouija boards or trigger objects, invite them?
Any reputable medium will tell you that the phrase 'Is (so-and-so) there?' is an invitation. The phrase 'Is anybody there?', as uttered by halfwits on TV shows is an open invitation to any spirit, human or otherwise, trying to get through. A better, much safer phrasing is 'Who's there?' because it demands an identity. Never underestimate the power of invitation. And never trust any response. Ghosts are dead people, and people lie.
Ouija boards are a recent invention. This is used by sceptics to 'debunk' them. In fact, they were invented as a means of making money from the spiritualist craze. The inventors might not even have believed in the supernatural. They might have seen nothing more than a business opportunity. However, they were based on previous, long-standing spirit communication methods and effectively put the atom bomb within reach of the amateur. They do work. They do allow spirit contact BUT they are not selective in who, or what they contact. You might reach Aunt Flo with one of these or you might reach someone or something that's pretending to be Aunt Flo. With the limited contact allowed by that board, you can't tell. It's an open radio. You have no idea what's coming through. It works by the attraction of the life force of the people using the board and it's specificity is less if none of the sitters believe. They're all pressing for a result even if they claim to be non-believers, otherwise they wouldn't be sitting there. Pressing for a result, and not caring what that result might be, is like pressing a big red button labelled 'Don't press this'.
Trigger objects are neutral. They don't send an invitation. I'll post the 'rotating clown' story someday, when I have it sorted out.
What about simple fear? Could someone's fear of such things send out a signal, like fishbait in water? Do tell all!
Ah, the old 'blood in the water' theory of fear. I don't know for sure, but I think that can only apply to human ghosts. Dead bullies react to fear just like living ones. It's not a signal as such but if they've scared you once, they might try to do it again.
heyjude said...
Rom, sounds like you need to write another book to warn the naive about all the dangers.
There's little point trying to explain things to those too stupid to listen. Many times, the dangers of drink-driving, or using a mobile phone while driving have been explained in gory detail, yet the masses of morons that populate the world have declared themselves exempt from death and injury. In an earlier post I described how most people are too dense to realise there are other living people around, never mind dead ones.
I have a second edition in preparation but I don't fool myself into thinking it'll make a big difference. The world will always be populated with 99% dopes, and we'll always elect the dopiest to lead us.
Did that answer the questions? I have to go now to see if the clown rotated.
